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Feb 21, 2023 10:02 PM CST
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Name: Stefan
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It uh looks like the one with the long complicated name... something mau hen p fordi or something,,.
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Feb 21, 2023 10:14 PM CST
Name: Baja
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Feb 21, 2023 11:28 PM CST
Name: Thijs van Soest
Tempe, AZ (Zone 9b)
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I think Stephan is right.
It is what it is!
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Feb 22, 2023 12:54 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Stefan
SE europe(balkans) (Zone 6b)
Wild Plant Hunter Plumerias Overwinters Tender Plants Indoors Cactus and Succulents Sempervivums Bromeliad
Adeniums Bookworm Sedums Tropicals Fruit Growers Foliage Fan
Baja_Costero said: Do you mean this plant?

Mammillaria (Mammillaria muehlenpfordtii)

Thats the one
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Feb 22, 2023 11:16 AM CST
Name: Baja
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Moved to that entry.

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Feb 22, 2023 12:00 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Stefan
SE europe(balkans) (Zone 6b)
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There were 2 photos btw of the same plant
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Feb 22, 2023 12:08 PM CST
Name: Baja
Baja California (Zone 11b)
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Is this the other one? It looks different to me.

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Feb 22, 2023 12:16 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Stefan
SE europe(balkans) (Zone 6b)
Wild Plant Hunter Plumerias Overwinters Tender Plants Indoors Cactus and Succulents Sempervivums Bromeliad
Adeniums Bookworm Sedums Tropicals Fruit Growers Foliage Fan
Probably not Mammillaria muehlenpfordtii but it seems ...not like pilcayensis either. Too thick and upright. If I recall pilcayensis was a groundhugger that could hang upside down...
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Feb 22, 2023 12:27 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Stefan
SE europe(balkans) (Zone 6b)
Wild Plant Hunter Plumerias Overwinters Tender Plants Indoors Cactus and Succulents Sempervivums Bromeliad
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Going with plain spinosissima (upright) or a cross between it and pilcayensis.
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Feb 24, 2023 2:47 PM CST
Name: Baja
Baja California (Zone 11b)
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@mcvansoest please let us know if you have any thoughts here ... I can move the image to the species entry or the genus entry if there is some doubt about the current ID.

Thank You!
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Feb 25, 2023 11:20 AM CST
Name: Thijs van Soest
Tempe, AZ (Zone 9b)
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Could be. Hard to know - crosses between subspecies are generally not recognized as such but just ascribed to variability. There are huge areas in AZ where one could not tell what Agave parryi subspecies you are looking at because there is no abrupt transition - no matter how we would like for there to be one - but it is a slow gradual change from one to the next.

I guess when in doubt go with the most generic possibility so M. spinosissima is probably the way to go.
It is what it is!
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Feb 25, 2023 1:55 PM CST
Name: Baja
Baja California (Zone 11b)
Cactus and Succulents Seed Starter Xeriscape Container Gardener Hummingbirder Native Plants and Wildflowers
Garden Photography Region: Mexico Plant Identifier Forum moderator Plant Database Moderator Garden Ideas: Level 2
OK, I moved the image there.

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