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Jan 14, 2020 1:17 PM CST

If anyone sees centifolia Bullata available and in stock somewhere, that is one I'm hoping to grow someday but it seems to be rare right now.
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Jan 14, 2020 4:15 PM CST
Name: Lyn
Weaverville, California (Zone 8a)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Level 1
@KSPNW8 ...

Greenmantle Nursery has your rose listed in their inventory.

http://www.greenmantlenursery....
I'd rather weed than dust ... the weeds stay gone longer.
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Jan 14, 2020 6:00 PM CST

Thanks for the Greenmantle suggestion! Unfortunately Bullata is one of their roses with an asterisk -- those aren't being sold for some reason. I keep hoping they will start propagating it again in the future...
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Jan 14, 2020 8:45 PM CST
Name: Lyn
Weaverville, California (Zone 8a)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Level 1
Ooops ! I didn't check carefully enough.

I don't know if you live in the US, but you might call the nursery. They may have a small inventory of 'Bullata', but not enough to list on the website.

If that is the case, they may work with you to get a plant to you.

Also, Palantine has the rose listed in their inventory.

https://palatineroses.com/rose...
I'd rather weed than dust ... the weeds stay gone longer.
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Jan 14, 2020 11:39 PM CST

Thanks for that! I ordered it from Palatine (along with Gloire de Guilan and Tour de Malakoff because I needed three to be able to place an order). I swore I wouldn't buy roses this year, and I've already ordered five... He he he.
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Jan 15, 2020 8:27 PM CST
Name: Carol
Alberta, Canada (Zone 3b)
Lyn - D'Oh! I always use Chlorox disinfecting wipes...I assumed they had bleach in them. My roses always get canker. Maybe I've just been spreading the disease around. This year, maybe I'll add real bleach to the wipes container and see if that makes a difference. Thank You!
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Jan 16, 2020 12:53 AM CST
Name: Lyn
Weaverville, California (Zone 8a)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Level 1
Carol ...

I didn't know until yesterday, that the Clorox wipes did not contain bleach. I've been using them, too. Glare I finally researched to find out what the active ingredient was in the wipes. Clorox does not make that easy. The information is not on the container. Nor is it on their site. They give you a link to go to a "Smart label" site to get the information. Then you have to go through a list of over 100 products ..... arghhhh

I am planning to follow Arturo's example and use alcohol this year.

There are so many things that can cause cane damage. Many of which I didn't mention in my last post. Margie sent me an article where it was determined that wind damage could cause almost invisible breaks in the cambian layer of plants.

https://www.dictionary.com/bro...

There are more, but these are the sites where the fungal infections start.

I have a lot to learn about canker, so please don't take my word for it beyond that any open wound creates an opportunity for canker to start.

One of the reasons LeGrice mentioned in his book to prune as soon as the sap starts rising is that the pruning wounds heal fastest at this point in the pruning process and there is less chance of pathogens getting started.

I am still studying.
I'd rather weed than dust ... the weeds stay gone longer.
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Jan 16, 2020 2:58 AM CST
Name: Carol
Alberta, Canada (Zone 3b)
So when you say alcohol...you mean rubbing alcohol...booze...??? I'm confused. Blinking Thanks for doing the research and informing us. I tip my hat to you. I really appreciate that!
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Jan 16, 2020 6:16 AM CST
Name: Arturo Tarak
Bariloche,Rio Negro, Argentina (Zone 8a)
Dahlias Irises Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Roses
Carol, I use rubbing alcohol ( the one you get in a pharmacy) 95%. I use it mainly in the vet side of my activity. I clean my pruner after each cut by rubbing the blades with cotton wool dipped in the alcohol. I keep it inside a plastic bag in my pocket so I have it handy . I change the cotton wool every day. I'm sure that keeps the cutting edges surgically sterile. I also recommend to keep the pruning blade as sharp as possible ( mine need urgent sharpening... Blinking ) because a not so perfect cut also introduces room for poor scar buildup.
Arturo
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Jan 16, 2020 1:21 PM CST
Name: Carol
Alberta, Canada (Zone 3b)
Arturo - Thank You! I had to look up what cotton wool is Hilarious! I got it now. Thumbs up I totally agree about needing to sharpen my pruners. Have I ever sharpened them??? Yeesh.
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Jan 16, 2020 4:28 PM CST
Name: Arturo Tarak
Bariloche,Rio Negro, Argentina (Zone 8a)
Dahlias Irises Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Roses
Carol
I've been amusing myself with this linguist David Crystal and his approach to English/ or Englishes ?.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Your [i] cotton wool [i/] sent me Rolling on the floor laughing
I can't even remember where I picked that up!. It is defintely how anglo Argentines describe that product, so most probably in my scottish high school in Buenos Aires.
Every now and then I need to figure out what some of the posters here are talking about, because I get mislead with a single word. The rest is obviously perfectly understood. I even spend much of my time thinking in English even here! The rest is spread between Armenian and Spanish. I was raised plurilingual from my very first years.

You do have a way that gets a big broad grin on my face Big Grin thank you!

Arturo
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Jan 16, 2020 4:46 PM CST
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX (Zone 9a)
Cat Lover Charter ATP Member Keeper of Poultry I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Dog Lover Keeps Horses
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Arturo, I like your term "plurilingual", I am going to adopt it!
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Jan 16, 2020 5:52 PM CST
Name: Arturo Tarak
Bariloche,Rio Negro, Argentina (Zone 8a)
Dahlias Irises Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Roses
@porkpal. I just checked my "plurilingual" global english coined word: it exists as of now! Rolling on the floor laughing because we both understood exactly what it means. Thank God the English never invented the equivalent of the Real Academia de la Lengua EspaƱola which in high manner decides what is an accepted word...after long and deep deliberation Sighing! Thus English/ or Englishes are much more adapted to this global village of which I'm an happy inhabitant. On the surprising side, I just returned from my evening stroll in my gardens amazed at our skies very high up thinly veiled by the Oz bush fire smoke. These last few days it's been cooler than usual, but also we were saved from our possible mid summer ( and devastating) frost this dawn, because of the overall greenhouse effect!. I can not but stop to wonder where all of this leads the world to. Confused
Arturo
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Jan 16, 2020 5:56 PM CST
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Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
Region: Ukraine Charter ATP Member Region: California Cat Lover Roses Clematis
Irises Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier Garden Sages Plant Database Moderator Garden Ideas: Master Level
I was also raised plurilingual, starting with Russian and then learning Korean, Japanese, and French. I had to learn a new alphabet each time as well as a new vocabulary. When I had to learn English, I was delighted that the English language used the "French alphabet." Big Grin
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Jan 16, 2020 8:59 PM CST
Name: Rosemary
Sacramento, CA (Zone 9b)
The OGR rosarians here say to dip your blades in a jar of 70% or 91% rubbing or isopropyl alcohol and open and close them to sterilize them. Takes a bit longer, but they say spraying with Lysol isn't enough, although one of them uses a 3% hydrogen peroxide spray. So I use the jar method, and it can take time when your are also using loppers and saws and have to sterilize them too, because you are removing cankered wood or dealing with a bush with crown gall. The other methods are probably better than none, though.

Tonight I came across some super cheap "body bag roses"--so many of my favorites, super cheap, and almost all had signs that they had had canker, and the affected parts had been cut flush, or sometimes, you could even see it go into the bud union. The few that looked like they might be ok, I almost bought, but then remembered, I am trying to stay away from thorny roses, even if they were once my favorites. So good-bye First Prize and New Day. A couple others, I had ordered from Regans in the fall, and I hope they will be worth the $20@ extra. Maybe these cheapy ones are only intended to have a short lifespan.
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Jan 17, 2020 2:17 AM CST
Name: Carol
Alberta, Canada (Zone 3b)
Arturo - I listened to the first one...it was really interesting. I love the way that regional differences in language causes language to evolve and how we cannot understand English that would have been spoken a couple of hundred years ago. And that's not very long ago. I can't believe how many languages you (and others here) speak. I tip my hat to you. Awww...thank you! It is wonderful how we all raise each other up, make each other smile and form a wonderful community. Group hug

Rosemary - so you concur with Arturo. That's good to hear. I like your idea of a jar....although I think I would place it on the ground and one of my dogs would drink it. I'll have to think about the best way to keep the rubbing alcohol close and useful..yet safe. Well...now I'm thinking I'll just use a lysol wipes empty container and put the rubbing alcohol in there...and dip the pruners in there. Problem solved. Green Grin!
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Feb 3, 2020 2:28 PM CST

Another elusive rose; Zalud House Shingled Raspberry .
That would be in my dream garden.
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Apr 6, 2020 10:57 AM CST
Ventura County, California
Zone 10 Ventura County, CA
Hello. I live in Ventura County, southern California, and am looking for Soeur Emmanuel (Delbard) I have been on their website and have contacted every nursery they list as a source. No luck. Any idea of another source for this rose?
If you have this rose, please tell me if you think it would do well in zone 9, summer heat. Thank you.
Always seeking recommendations and advice. I welcome suggestions for heat loving roses with great scent, disease resistance, and long vase life.
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Apr 6, 2020 11:23 AM CST
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX (Zone 9a)
Cat Lover Charter ATP Member Keeper of Poultry I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Dog Lover Keeps Horses
Roses Plant Identifier Farmer Raises cows Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Ideas: Level 2
HMF suggests Angel Gardens.
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Apr 6, 2020 3:02 PM CST
Zone 9, Sunset Zone 9 (Zone 9b)
Roses
I just looked this up this morning and Angel states on its website that it is out of stock. Palatine has it but call them as I don't know what they are doing re: mail order. It is in stock with them.

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