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Dec 18, 2022 9:36 PM CST
Name: TJOE
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GigiPlumeria said: So adorable. Lovey dubby I have a handful of these already and I do like them!

Yes, Gymnos are my favorite cactus, I have around 50 of adults gymnos and a few hundred seedlings of them..
This is the genus that I still buy if I saw some with beautiful color at the right price. Smiling
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Dec 18, 2022 9:40 PM CST
Name: Gigi AdeniumPlumeria
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Kaktus said: Yes, Gymnos are my favorite cactus, I have around 50 of adults gymnos and a few hundred seedlings of them..
This is the genus that I still buy if I saw some with beautiful color at the right price. Smiling

Are those the same as moon cactus? Similar to the one I have? I like that their blooms are big for a small cacti.
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Dec 18, 2022 10:01 PM CST
Name: TJOE
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GigiPlumeria said: Are those the same as moon cactus? Similar to the one I have? I like that their blooms are big for a small cacti.


Yes, moon cactus are Gymnos also, the colorful ones are without chlorophyll, hence need to be grafted on a rootstock. In the past few years Thailand and Indonesia have aggressively producing a lot of colored/variegated Gymnos that that can be grown directly on media, the prices have gone down significantly, next year I will start to collect them.

These are 2 that a bought in August, they are very slow grower because of not much chlorophyll, I selected those that have mix color, there are a lot of full pink color Gymnos that can grow roots and available.
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Dec 18, 2022 10:03 PM CST
Name: Gigi AdeniumPlumeria
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Ok yes, mine are still grafted and the purple/deep read. I will wait for them to get bigger before removing them from the graft. The orange one I am trying to rescue and see if it makes it without any graft.
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Dec 19, 2022 6:29 AM CST
Name: TJOE
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Just watching these gymnos that locally sold online, really need a lot of wisdom for not buying them, luckily I managed to control myself. Whistling
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Dec 19, 2022 7:57 AM CST
Name: Gigi AdeniumPlumeria
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Kaktus said: Just watching these gymnos that locally sold online, really need a lot of wisdom for not buying them, luckily I managed to control myself. Whistling
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I feel the same way with adeniums Hilarious! it is not even the color anymore. If the blooms are similar colors to what I have then I find an excuse to justify the "caudex" or the size of the branches. Justifying that I could use them as rootstock or to give them as gifts. Any excuse to buy more.
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Dec 20, 2022 4:20 PM CST
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GigiPlumeria said: I feel the same way with adeniums Hilarious! it is not even the color anymore. If the blooms are similar colors to what I have then I find an excuse to justify the "caudex" or the size of the branches. Justifying that I could use them as rootstock or to give them as gifts. Any excuse to buy more.


@GigiPlumeria
You see the differences that others don't because you are very in tune with them . I am the same with the aloe hybrids . When you are very focused you see a lot more than others . If you can see it, I would say don't worry about what others think . 👍
That said it's hard when we can't even listen to what we think 😂😂😂😂 how many times had I decided Ron leave getting a plant to find I snap and it's in my collection in days
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Dec 20, 2022 8:18 PM CST
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ketsui73 said: @GigiPlumeria
You see the differences that others don't because you are very in tune with them . I am the same with the aloe hybrids . When you are very focused you see a lot more than others . If you can see it, I would say don't worry about what others think . 👍
That said it's hard when we can't even listen to what we think 😂😂😂😂 how many times had I decided Ron leave getting a plant to find I snap and it's in my collection in days
Steve


@ketsui73 you are right on that, for me when it comes to adeniums "resistance is futile". And to make it more challenging, Adeniums bloom colors are not stable. Just like succulents and aloes you see one in a different time of the year in the store or some vendor will call it a different name and then you end up with 2 or 3 of the same. Hilarious!

That's how I ended up with 100+ desert roses from just May 2021 to present (if this weekend's freeze will not kill them). I did have my original 5 desert roses. I am now able to document the color change and has been making sure I have the right tag and I don't confuse them for a new cultivar that I don't have. And now with my sucess in hand pollinating them, I tip my hat to you. to @Wildbloomers I might end up with an "adenium farm" Hilarious! Hilarious!
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Dec 20, 2022 9:17 PM CST
Name: TJOE
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I understand those feeling, the same like me with Gymnos, luckily that I grew up in a very modest/frugal environment, not stingy but just a simple life that enough to erase the word "jealous" from my dictionary. Smiling
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Dec 20, 2022 9:31 PM CST
Name: Gigi AdeniumPlumeria
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Kaktus said: I understand those feeling, the same like me with Gymnos, luckily that I grew up in a very modest/frugal environment, not stingy but just a simple life that enough to erase the word "jealous" from my dictionary. Smiling


I am frugal and hubby can attest to that…: except when it comes to plants! Whistling I am still able to curb my spending by not buying anything online... and I don't buy anything on credit. Been good this last few months, no new purchases that are too many or too pricey (e.g. single plant for over $25).
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Dec 21, 2022 2:31 PM CST
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GigiPlumeria said: @ketsui73 you are right on that, for me when it comes to adeniums "resistance is futile". And to make it more challenging, Adeniums bloom colors are not stable. Just like succulents and aloes you see one in a different time of the year in the store or some vendor will call it a different name and then you end up with 2 or 3 of the same. Hilarious!

That's how I ended up with 100+ desert roses from just May 2021 to present (if this weekend's freeze will not kill them). I did have my original 5 desert roses. I am now able to document the color change and has been making sure I have the right tag and I don't confuse them for a new cultivar that I don't have. And now with my sucess in hand pollinating them, I tip my hat to you. to @Wildbloomers I might end up with an "adenium farm" Hilarious! Hilarious!


I don't think I have ever seen one other than pics . Not that common here for some reason They look like cool plants , I can see the attraction 👍
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Dec 21, 2022 3:21 PM CST
Name: TJOE
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ketsui73 said: I don't think I have ever seen one other than pics . Not that common here for some reason They look like cool plants , I can see the attraction 👍
Steve

Those plants are interesting and easy to grow, but they may not like your weather, they like maximum sunlight, just imagine the plants that will grow happily at my rooftop with 11 hours of direct sun. So far they are THE only plants that can still survive in summer for 2 weeks without water and no shade.
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Dec 21, 2022 3:56 PM CST
Name: Gigi AdeniumPlumeria
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ketsui73 said: I don't think I have ever seen one other than pics . Not that common here for some reason They look like cool plants , I can see the attraction 👍
Steve


Oh you need to try at least one 😂 there used to be a member in the Adenium forum who was from U.K. and she had adeniums. If you check my profile and images they are filled with Adenium images that I own.

You might need grow lights before you can see any blooms.
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Dec 30, 2022 11:04 PM CST
Name: TJOE
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These are the latest gymnos acquisition..

Can anyone help to ID the first one, the seller told but I forgot to take note, not baldianun for sure, btw in Thailand they have managed to make baldianun have 3 different flower colors by cross breeding, the shape of the plants are still the same.
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Variegated hybrids of G. Mihanovichi or LB.

No. 1 - 6
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No. 7 - 12
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This one is new hybrid, not many seller carrying this

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This last one is Gymno T-lux, and this one is the most expensive one among all cactus that we bought.
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Dec 30, 2022 11:13 PM CST
Name: Gigi AdeniumPlumeria
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@Kaktus these are so adorable! Lovey dubby I don't have a lot of cacti but I love the look of moon cactus. I like that these are not grafted!
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Dec 30, 2022 11:27 PM CST
Name: TJOE
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Yes, they are so beautiful, I hope they can grow well here, there is so much different on the humidity between Bangkok and Thailand, I still can manage the temperature difference by providing some shades, but not the humidity.
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Dec 30, 2022 11:31 PM CST
Name: Gigi AdeniumPlumeria
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Kaktus said: Yes, they are so beautiful, I hope they can grow well here, there is so much different on the humidity between Bangkok and Thailand, I still can manage the temperature difference by providing some shades, but not the humidity.


Do they like humid weather or less humid?
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Dec 30, 2022 11:58 PM CST
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Kaktus said: These are the latest gymnos acquisition..

Can anyone help to ID the first one, the seller told but I forgot to take note, not baldianun for sure, btw in Thailand they have managed to make baldianun have 3 different flower colors by cross breeding, the shape of the plants are still the same.
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my guess would be Gymnocalycium quehlianum ,
Rose Plaid Cactus (Gymnocalycium quehlianum)

but i am not good with the spikey ID's lets see what others think.
Amazing haul BTW
Steve
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Jan 4, 2023 5:43 PM CST
Name: TJOE
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Wooly gymnos...
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Those wooly thing looks like flower Smiling
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Feb 24, 2023 4:47 PM CST
Name: Prabhi Setty
Trinidad West-Indies
Kaktus said: These are the latest gymnos acquisition..

Can anyone help to ID the first one, the seller told but I forgot to take note, not baldianun for sure, btw in Thailand they have managed to make baldianun have 3 different flower colors by cross breeding, the shape of the plants are still the same.
Thumb of 2022-12-31/Kaktus/cd0edb

Variegated hybrids of G. Mihanovichi or LB.

No. 1 - 6
Thumb of 2022-12-31/Kaktus/d1826d

No. 7 - 12
Thumb of 2022-12-31/Kaktus/a79f8d

Thumb of 2022-12-31/Kaktus/9bac2e

Thumb of 2022-12-31/Kaktus/e00d31

Thumb of 2022-12-31/Kaktus/d4426d

Thumb of 2022-12-31/Kaktus/04f467

This one is new hybrid, not many seller carrying this

Thumb of 2022-12-31/Kaktus/a83776

This last one is Gymno T-lux, and this one is the most expensive one among all cactus that we bought.

thank you for the information and images.
prabhisetty

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